HexaDecimator(20:42:04)
huh, nectaplayer is misinterpreting the .s3m stereo control effects in Starshine here...
Oldchap(20:41:21)
Not sure how a good-faith exchange of imaginative ideas could be verboten...
mirrorbird(20:39:04)
arf, oneliner theology. not technically "politics" so probably ok
mirrorbird(20:38:34)
in that case the "designer" is just another living being of some kind, not perfect => not a god to be worshipped
Oldchap(20:38:03)
I guess that's assuming that the lab scientist is somehow similar to us rather than a transcendent being that we cannot have any conception of.
Oldchap(20:37:36)
I mean, if our universe is an advanced laboratory simulation then its designer would be tantamount to God for us, and his motivations could potentially be no different from those of our own when we create something.
mirrorbird(20:35:35)
but i guess one can't speculate. it'd be like an ant trying to determine human motivations, there's no common frame of reference
mirrorbird(20:35:15)
my atheism runs along the same lines: if a God was perfect and faultless, why would it create anything...
Oldchap(20:32:33)
result from its brain chemicals. So just pure consciousness, like a blank awareness, detached from all this.... why would it even want to live? Nobody has answered that for me yet.
Oldchap(20:31:55)
"who's to say it would want to?" Yeah, I tend to agree with this. I don't think we have any example of consciousness detached from a biological organism whose motivations to live and survive are connected to its biochemical makeup and the emotions that